In this episode of Let’s Talk About CBT, Helen Macdonald speaks with Phil Cooper, mental health nurse and co-founder of the charity State of Mind Sport, and Ian Knott, former professional rugby league player and State of Mind presenter.

(Picture Phil and Ian presenting at last years BABCP Conference in Manchester)

Phil shares how State of Mind was born out of tragedy and developed into an award-winning mental fitness programme, now reaching thousands of athletes across the UK and beyond. Ian talks candidly about his experience of severe injury, depression, and suicidal thoughts after retiring from sport, and how CBT helped him to rebuild his life.

We hear how sports settings are being used to break down stigma, encourage conversations, and promote mental health support—particularly among men—and how brief interactions and powerful personal stories can save lives. Podcast link here https://letstalkaboutcbt.libsyn.com/lets-talk-about-mental-fitness-in-sports

Resources & Links:

State of Mind Sport website

Information on CBT and how to find a therapist

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This episode was produced by Steph Curnow